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26/10/2007 26/10/2007 à 22:19 Hors ligne #251

I know it sounds unbelievable, but people who can both speak and write French and English properly DO exist. > Yes, and they're often called English teachers or bilingual people. ;(
Because have the English accent should be very difficult.

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Klarth IdolMembre

27/10/2007 27/10/2007 à 00:57 Hors ligne #252

I think that accent comes with age, but you're supposed to live in the country, particularly the region where the accent come from, for a long time. But even with it, you cannot still have two different accents.

That's why my english tchr, who is a natural english speaker, not like my high school teacher was, has a really englishish french when she's talking to us, that's quite funny. Ü

dsch Nouveau Membre Auteur

27/10/2007 27/10/2007 à 01:36 Hors ligne #253

Message édité le 27/10/2007 à 01:39.

Milocéane <> english accent is something invented by english teachers to try to get you to speak their way, but there's actually no english accent really, like, I'm bilingual and my accent is kind of a mix between american and british accent *don't ask why, I don't even know*

and the reason why people here write in english better than they do in french is because you're more careful when it's not your native language, something I've noticed a while ago, foreigners always speak french better than french people, and that's a fact xD because french people think they master this language, since it's their mother tongue, so they think they can twist it the way they want, whereas a foreigner always feels judged and feels as if he or she had to speak perfectly ^^

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Toch AngiMembre Ultime

27/10/2007 27/10/2007 à 11:05 Hors ligne #254

This is a weird thing, I've always been told not to mix accents, so I chose British, of course. It's much more elegant than this ugly American "vocal gelly".

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Mut AngiMembre Ultime

27/10/2007 27/10/2007 à 12:14 Hors ligne #255

I'm unable to recognize accents.

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Kazu AngiMembre Evolué

27/10/2007 27/10/2007 à 12:15 Hors ligne #256

dsch ~> That's maybe right in theory, but in reality I'm convinced that native people always speak better, or at least in an equal way, than foreigners. When you say "they think they can twist it the way they want" who are you speaking about ? Only teenagers and some adults on the web for example, but if you take a politic man or a journalist or even a teacher, all of them are speaking French quite properly. It always depends on the kind of people you choose.

And even if strangers try to speak perfectly, they always keep on making some mistakes for a couple of years, even it they're small, because languages like French or Spanish are very difficult compared to English. (with all the stupid things like genders and so on -_-" )

I sometimes hear that English speakers are lazy when it comes to learn foreign languages, because everyone always know at least a few English words so they can communicate anyway, maybe they just wonder "why bother ?"

Getting the English accent is maily in the intonation, as you know the french one is very monotonous whereas the English one in all the contrary. There is also the prononciation, but I don't think a French person who would say a sentence with a perfect syntax and prononciation but a French intonation would be properly understood by a native English speaker.

Was anyone able to read my whole post ??

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Mut AngiMembre Ultime

27/10/2007 27/10/2007 à 12:35 Hors ligne #257

kasumi16 a écrit :

but if you take a politic man or a journalist or even a teacher, all of them are speaking French quite properly.

It depends. Some journalists, politicians or corporate managers often invent stupid and useless words (in French at least). "Bojor on va solutionner les problématiques client :-PPPPPP"

dsch Nouveau Membre Auteur

27/10/2007 27/10/2007 à 16:28 Hors ligne #258

Message édité le 27/10/2007 à 16:30.

*when I talk about twisting the language I'm talking about french people*
but no, I mean, the way foreigners speak french is better because they've been told saying "ils croivent" or that kind or stuff wasn't correct so they don't say it, plenty of people make so many grammatical etc mistakes just because they think it's their language so they speak better,as Mut said plenty of french people invent useless expressions everyday...

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I've always been told not to mix accents, so I chose British

see, that's the perfect illustration of what I said.
When I learn a language I always try to speak it as if it was my native language, I don't think in french in my head or in english, just try to think in the language I'm speaking, keeps me from mixing with other languages

*but I keep saying stuff like "experiencer, afforder etc in french xD*

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It's much more elegant than this ugly American "vocal gelly".

that's your point of view, not everyone speaks the same way in america, what people call american accent is the accent from New York city that's all, it's like Paris' accent, people are always stressed up and stuff so they almost spit their words out as if they where in a hurry

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Toch AngiMembre Ultime

27/10/2007 27/10/2007 à 20:30 Hors ligne #259

Mut > In English it would be "recognise", dear.

dsch > In America, people ALL pronounce "r"s in words or a the end of them.*

Let's take the example of butter.
Brit : Battah
US : Beudeu"www"

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Mut AngiMembre Ultime

27/10/2007 27/10/2007 à 21:04 Hors ligne #260

Ah, -ise is English and -ize is American, I forgot...

American.
Why the fuck don't they have a word for "citizen of the United States"? United States are not America.

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Toch AngiMembre Ultime

27/10/2007 27/10/2007 à 21:28 Hors ligne #261

Yeh be fucking right, buddy.
You are right, dear.

And also -our is British and -or American.
I definitely prefer English.

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Ze-Elise Membre en Mutation

28/10/2007 28/10/2007 à 00:11 Hors ligne #262

There are too americans in my class

It's so funny, I really like their accent. Many pupils in my school can speak english fluently (or for instance : english AND spanish AND french). It rocks

I wish I could speak many many languages... <3

dsch Nouveau Membre Auteur

28/10/2007 28/10/2007 à 00:44 Hors ligne #263

Toch <> you've been travelling through all the US to be able to say that? I've been in Texas for a while and no one had that stupid texan accent people caricature so much, people didn't even speak the way you say ! And I was in San Antonio, not a small town -_-

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Toch AngiMembre Ultime

28/10/2007 28/10/2007 à 09:03 Hors ligne #264

I don't mean they all have a Texan accent, but they pronounce "r"'s, that's all. The official, perfect American pronounciation we can hear on TV or on radio is similar to what I say, even though some don't speak that way.

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Kazu AngiMembre Evolué

28/10/2007 28/10/2007 à 12:15 Hors ligne #265

Please don't make fun of me but.....

As for me, the American version of the anime of Pokemon [for example xDD] is much more easily understandable (Does this structure really exist ?? xD) than the British one. And it's not "jelly" at all.

I love Ash's voice !

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Toch AngiMembre Ultime

28/10/2007 28/10/2007 à 12:20 Hors ligne #266

It's normal, it's for kids ! "Teudayyyyy I'm beginning my jeurrrrrnyyyy to beucaaaame a Powkeymon mèèèsteurrrrr"

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Kazu AngiMembre Evolué

28/10/2007 28/10/2007 à 12:40 Hors ligne #267

I know this, I'm just saying that British people didn't really make any efforts to speak more slowly or anything, contrary to the Americans.

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Montblanc The Mog Membre Sympa

28/10/2007 28/10/2007 à 14:24 Hors ligne #268

Message édité le 28/10/2007 à 14:29.

Yup, I think the British accent is a little ehhh..... dull, like last years's english teacher lol :
gooooood mmàààààrniiiing pioupulllssss howwww aaaaare youuuuuuuuuu touuudayyyiiiii ?
I pretty much more like the Texan accent (wwwesstern spaghetti !!)

Personnally, I'd have liked an english version of pokemon diamond and pearl in France as well because I rreeeeaaaaalllly love the english name's.

There's an Australian student in our class, I can't understand a dang thing she says.

dsch Nouveau Membre Auteur

28/10/2007 28/10/2007 à 19:53 Hors ligne #269

Message édité le 28/10/2007 à 19:54.

I'm not talking about texan accent in general, I know what you mean, but I was saying that, even in Texas where people are supposed to speak worst, they all are understable and most people don't speak like on TV.... It's like people who say that british accent is wonderful, just stay in the center of London, cocni accent what a mess, the worst accent in the world and no one, not even british people, can understand it xD

Australian accent is a funny thing, depending on where the person's from some times it sounds like british accent, some times it sounds like nothing.. xD

-Mihawk- Nouveau Membre

28/10/2007 28/10/2007 à 21:05 Hors ligne #270

Why we have made this topic ?

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